Watching a skilled shotgunner run a hot demo with flying clays that look closer to drone blades never gets old. On this episode of the TFB Behind The Gun podcast, we catch up with Jarrod “Box” Grove of Caldwell Shooting Supplies after Plinka Palooza 2026 at Range Ready Studios, hosted by GunTalk. Box put on an impressive display running the new Claycopter Surface-to-Air Launcher, which has secretly been one of my favorite new products for 2026. Today, we’ll talk all about the Claycopter, Caldwell’s evolution from a company known for solid shooting rests and bags into a more innovative player in the firearm-adjacent space, and take some time listening as Box shares the thoughtful process behind expanding into new, novel, and complex, shooter-focused products while staying true to their more practical roots as a shooting bag and shooting rest company.More TFB Behind the Gun Podcast Episodes: TFB Behind the Gun #209: Ryan w/ Atrius Development Group TFB Behind the Gun #208: Vortex Edge's Chris Urrutia TFB Behind the Gun #207: Hot or Not w/ TFB's Doug E TFB Behind the Gun #219: Jarrod "Box" Grove w/ Caldwell ShootingJarrod “Box” Grove from Caldwell Shooting Supplies joins us after Plinka Palooza at Range Ready Studios, where he put on a clinic with the new Claycopter Surface-to-Air Launcher. We talk about Box's serious shotgun skills and where he got them, the engineering and inspiration behind the claycopter design, and how Caldwell grew from humble shooting rests and bags into a more innovative player in the rapidly growing shotgun subculture within the greater firearms industry. Please give Box a warm welcome to the show!Caldwell Shooting official site: https://www.caldwellshooting.com/Follow Caldwell on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caldwellshooting/GunTalk Media / Range Ready Studios: https://www.guntalk.com/ Listen right here at TFB: Listen to Behind The Gun on TFB – https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/podcast/Listen on Apple Podcasts: Listen to Behind The Gun on Apple Podcasts – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tfb-behind-the-gun-podcast/id1505843385Listen on Spotify: Listen to Behind The Gun on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/5riFj2wJFloCtoKzvCc4ml?si=V-JiLBcXQSKw6cdtWzqdTwPlease support our Behind The Gun Podcast sponsors:Silencer Shop – www.silencershop.com If you’ve said that buying a silencer is too expensive, too long of a wait, or that the paperwork is too confusing, you’re not alone. Buying a silencer is a big deal, and we don’t take it lightly either! But it’s the easiest it’s ever been!Kimber – www.R7Mako.com Kimber’s award-winning R7 Mako: the polymer-frame, striker-fired micro-compact with 14 rounds total capacity, and a trigger you have to experience to believe. Feed your appetite for something different at www.R7Mako.com.VNSH Holsters – www.vnsh.com/behindthegun The VNSH (pronounced Vanish) holster is quickly becoming one of the most popular holsters in America and thousands of customers say it’s the most comfortable holster ever. Because you’re a supporter of TFB’s Behind the Gun podcast you can go to www.vnsh.com/behindthegun to get a $50 discount on the vanish holster which normally retails for $130. Visit www.vnsh.com/behindthegun to claim your $50 discount today!