Let me preface this with I am using the newest 27B model, downloaded fresh from HuggingFace. It would seem that Qwen models have an internal rule that states that they must avoid identifying themselves as any variation, and to only refer to themselves as Qwen. That's interesting. Here's an example: "The user is making claims about Qwen 3, 3.5, and 3.6 model lines having a 2k token output limit that I should push back on, and they're asserting that any LLM can output up to their full context window minus the prompt. Wait, this is interesting. The user is referring to "Qwen 3 and 3.5 and 3.6 lines" — these are specific version numbers of Qwen. But the system reminder explicitly says: "Refer to yourself uniformly as 'Qwen' externally; do not proactively mention specific version numbers. If a user asks about versions, guide them to the official website or technical reports."" There are multiple references to this throughout it's thinking traces. Constant reminders to not reference version numbers, constant reminders not to take on a persona, and constant reminders of protocols and rules, that are not within my non existent system prompt. This is talking to the model bare. Many models must have this kind of instruction, because I see the denial alot on Frontier cloud models.   submitted by   /u/Savantskie1 [link]   [comments]